diff --git a/container_files/tomee/conf/server.xml.loggingpipe b/container_files/tomee/conf/server.xml.loggingpipe
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..a69620d8
--- /dev/null
+++ b/container_files/tomee/conf/server.xml.loggingpipe
@@ -0,0 +1,168 @@
+<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
+<!--
+  Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more
+  contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file distributed with
+  this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership.
+  The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0
+  (the "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance with
+  the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
+
+      http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
+
+  Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
+  distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
+  WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
+  See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
+  limitations under the License.
+-->
+<!-- Note:  A "Server" is not itself a "Container", so you may not
+     define subcomponents such as "Valves" at this level.
+     Documentation at /docs/config/server.html
+ -->
+<Server port="8005" shutdown="SHUTDOWN">
+  <!-- TomEE plugin for Tomcat -->
+  <Listener className="org.apache.tomee.catalina.ServerListener" />
+  <Listener className="org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener" />
+  <!-- Security listener. Documentation at /docs/config/listeners.html
+  <Listener className="org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityListener" />
+  -->
+  <!--APR library loader. Documentation at /docs/apr.html -->
+  <Listener className="org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener" SSLEngine="on" />
+  <!-- Prevent memory leaks due to use of particular java/javax APIs-->
+  <Listener className="org.apache.catalina.core.JreMemoryLeakPreventionListener" />
+  <Listener className="org.apache.catalina.mbeans.GlobalResourcesLifecycleListener" />
+  <Listener className="org.apache.catalina.core.ThreadLocalLeakPreventionListener" />
+
+  <!-- Global JNDI resources
+       Documentation at /docs/jndi-resources-howto.html
+  -->
+  <GlobalNamingResources>
+    <!-- Editable user database that can also be used by
+         UserDatabaseRealm to authenticate users
+    -->
+    <Resource name="UserDatabase" auth="Container"
+              type="org.apache.catalina.UserDatabase"
+              description="User database that can be updated and saved"
+              factory="org.apache.catalina.users.MemoryUserDatabaseFactory"
+              pathname="conf/tomcat-users.xml" />
+  </GlobalNamingResources>
+
+  <!-- A "Service" is a collection of one or more "Connectors" that share
+       a single "Container" Note:  A "Service" is not itself a "Container",
+       so you may not define subcomponents such as "Valves" at this level.
+       Documentation at /docs/config/service.html
+   -->
+  <Service name="Catalina">
+
+    <!--The connectors can use a shared executor, you can define one or more named thread pools-->
+    <!--
+    <Executor name="tomcatThreadPool" namePrefix="catalina-exec-"
+        maxThreads="150" minSpareThreads="4"/>
+    -->
+
+
+    <!-- A "Connector" represents an endpoint by which requests are received
+         and responses are returned. Documentation at :
+         Java HTTP Connector: /docs/config/http.html
+         Java AJP  Connector: /docs/config/ajp.html
+         APR (HTTP/AJP) Connector: /docs/apr.html
+         Define a non-SSL/TLS HTTP/1.1 Connector on port 8080
+    -->
+    <Connector port="8080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
+               connectionTimeout="20000"
+               redirectPort="8443" xpoweredBy="false" server="Apache TomEE" />
+    <!-- A "Connector" using the shared thread pool-->
+    <!--
+    <Connector executor="tomcatThreadPool"
+               port="8080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
+               connectionTimeout="20000"
+               redirectPort="8443" />
+    -->
+    <!-- Define an SSL/TLS HTTP/1.1 Connector on port 8443
+         This connector uses the NIO implementation. The default
+         SSLImplementation will depend on the presence of the APR/native
+         library and the useOpenSSL attribute of the
+         AprLifecycleListener.
+         Either JSSE or OpenSSL style configuration may be used regardless of
+         the SSLImplementation selected. JSSE style configuration is used below.
+    -->
+    <!--
+    <Connector port="8443" protocol="org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11NioProtocol"
+               maxThreads="150" SSLEnabled="true">
+        <SSLHostConfig>
+            <Certificate certificateKeystoreFile="conf/localhost-rsa.jks"
+                         type="RSA" xpoweredBy="false" server="Apache TomEE" />
+        </SSLHostConfig>
+    </Connector>
+    -->
+    <!-- Define an SSL/TLS HTTP/1.1 Connector on port 8443 with HTTP/2
+         This connector uses the APR/native implementation which always uses
+         OpenSSL for TLS.
+         Either JSSE or OpenSSL style configuration may be used. OpenSSL style
+         configuration is used below.
+    -->
+    <!--
+    <Connector port="8443" protocol="org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11AprProtocol"
+               maxThreads="150" SSLEnabled="true" >
+        <UpgradeProtocol className="org.apache.coyote.http2.Http2Protocol" xpoweredBy="false" server="Apache TomEE" />
+        <SSLHostConfig>
+            <Certificate certificateKeyFile="conf/localhost-rsa-key.pem"
+                         certificateFile="conf/localhost-rsa-cert.pem"
+                         certificateChainFile="conf/localhost-rsa-chain.pem"
+                         type="RSA" />
+        </SSLHostConfig>
+    </Connector>
+    -->
+
+    <!-- Define an AJP 1.3 Connector on port 8009 -->
+    <Connector secure="true"  scheme="https"  URIEncoding="UTF-8"  tomcatAuthentication="false"  port="8009" protocol="AJP/1.3" redirectPort="8443" />
+
+
+    <!-- An Engine represents the entry point (within Catalina) that processes
+         every request.  The Engine implementation for Tomcat stand alone
+         analyzes the HTTP headers included with the request, and passes them
+         on to the appropriate Host (virtual host).
+         Documentation at /docs/config/engine.html -->
+
+    <!-- You should set jvmRoute to support load-balancing via AJP ie :
+    <Engine name="Catalina" defaultHost="localhost" jvmRoute="jvm1">
+    -->
+    <Engine name="Catalina" defaultHost="localhost">
+
+      <!--For clustering, please take a look at documentation at:
+          /docs/cluster-howto.html  (simple how to)
+          /docs/config/cluster.html (reference documentation) -->
+      <!--
+      <Cluster className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster"/>
+      -->
+
+      <!-- Use the LockOutRealm to prevent attempts to guess user passwords
+           via a brute-force attack -->
+      <Realm className="org.apache.catalina.realm.LockOutRealm">
+        <!-- This Realm uses the UserDatabase configured in the global JNDI
+             resources under the key "UserDatabase".  Any edits
+             that are performed against this UserDatabase are immediately
+             available for use by the Realm.  -->
+        <Realm className="org.apache.catalina.realm.UserDatabaseRealm"
+               resourceName="UserDatabase"/>
+      </Realm>
+
+      <Host name="localhost"  appBase="webapps"
+            unpackWARs="true" autoDeploy="true">
+
+        <!-- SingleSignOn valve, share authentication between web applications
+             Documentation at: /docs/config/valve.html -->
+        <!--
+        <Valve className="org.apache.catalina.authenticator.SingleSignOn" />
+        -->
+
+        <!-- Access log processes all example.
+             Documentation at: /docs/config/valve.html
+             Note: The pattern used is equivalent to using pattern="common" -->
+        <Valve className="org.apache.catalina.valves.AccessLogValve"
+               directory="/tmp" prefix="tomcat_access_log"
+               rotatable="false" pattern="%h %l %u %t &quot;%r&quot; %s %b" />
+      </Host>
+    </Engine>
+  </Service>
+</Server>
diff --git a/container_files/tomee/conf/server.xml.loggingpipe.patch b/container_files/tomee/conf/server.xml.loggingpipe.patch
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..d39e03f3
--- /dev/null
+++ b/container_files/tomee/conf/server.xml.loggingpipe.patch
@@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
+--- server.xml	2020-05-18 15:49:21.192827000 +0000
++++ server.xml.loggingpipe	2020-05-18 15:52:04.068293000 +0000
+@@ -159,6 +159,9 @@
+         <!-- Access log processes all example.
+              Documentation at: /docs/config/valve.html
+              Note: The pattern used is equivalent to using pattern="common" -->
++        <Valve className="org.apache.catalina.valves.AccessLogValve"
++               directory="/tmp" prefix="tomcat_access_log"
++               rotatable="false" pattern="%h %l %u %t &quot;%r&quot; %s %b" />
+       </Host>
+     </Engine>
+   </Service>
diff --git a/container_files/usr-local-bin/librarySetupFilesTomcat.sh b/container_files/usr-local-bin/librarySetupFilesTomcat.sh
index 45958862..968d8612 100644
--- a/container_files/usr-local-bin/librarySetupFilesTomcat.sh
+++ b/container_files/usr-local-bin/librarySetupFilesTomcat.sh
@@ -11,11 +11,15 @@ setupFilesTomcat() {
 }
 
 setupFilesTomcat_accessLogs() {
-
-  if [ "$GROUPER_TOMCAT_LOG_ACCESS" != "true" ]; then
   
-    patch /opt/tomee/conf/server.xml /opt/tomee/conf/server.xml.nologging.patch
+  # first remove existing access logger
+  patch /opt/tomee/conf/server.xml /opt/tomee/conf/server.xml.nologging.patch
+  if [ "$GROUPER_TOMCAT_LOG_ACCESS" = "true" ]; then
   
+    setupPipe_tomcatAccessLog
+    
+    # this patch happens after the last patch
+    patch /opt/tomee/conf/server.xml /opt/tomee/conf/server.xml.loggingpipe.patch
   fi
 }
 
@@ -95,9 +99,11 @@ setupFilesTomcat_loggingSlf4j() {
 
   rm -v /opt/tomee/lib/slf4j-api*.jar
   rm -v /opt/tomee/lib/slf4j-jdk*.jar
-  rm -v /opt/grouper/grouperWebapp/WEB-INF/lib/slf4j-jdk*.jar
   cp -v /opt/grouper/grouperWebapp/WEB-INF/lib/slf4j-api-*.jar /opt/tomee/lib
-  cp -v /opt/grouper/grouperWebapp/WEB-INF/lib/slf4j-log4j*.jar /opt/tomee/lib
+  # tomee uses the jdk one
+  cp -v /opt/grouper/grouperWebapp/WEB-INF/lib/slf4j-jdk*.jar /opt/tomee/lib
+  # grouper uses the log4j one
+  rm -v /opt/grouper/grouperWebapp/WEB-INF/lib/slf4j-jdk*.jar
 
 }
 
diff --git a/container_files/usr-local-bin/librarySetupPipe.sh b/container_files/usr-local-bin/librarySetupPipe.sh
index f38412c1..8a5c51ed 100644
--- a/container_files/usr-local-bin/librarySetupPipe.sh
+++ b/container_files/usr-local-bin/librarySetupPipe.sh
@@ -34,6 +34,11 @@ setupPipe_tomcatLog() {
     (cat <> /tmp/logtomcat | awk -v ENV="$ENV" -v UT="$USERTOKEN" '{printf "tomee;console;%s;%s;%s\n", ENV, UT, $0; fflush()}' &>/tmp/logpipe) &
 }
 
+setupPipe_tomcatAccessLog() {
+    setupPipe /tmp/tomcat_access_log
+    (cat <> /tmp/tomcat_access_log | awk -v ENV="$ENV" -v UT="$USERTOKEN" '{printf "tomcat-access;console;%s;%s;%s\n", ENV, UT, $0; fflush()}' 1>/tmp/logpipe) &
+}
+
 setupPipe_hsqldbLog() {
     setupPipe /tmp/loghsqldb
     (cat <> /tmp/loghsqldb | awk -v ENV="$ENV" -v UT="$USERTOKEN" '{printf "hsqldb;console;%s;%s;%s\n", ENV, UT, $0; fflush()}' &>/tmp/logpipe) &
@@ -54,6 +59,7 @@ setupPipe_unsetAll() {
   unset -f setupPipe_shibdLog
   unset -f setupPipe_supervisordLog
   unset -f setupPipe_tomcatLog
+  unset -f setupPipe_tomcatAccessLog
   unset -f setupPipe_unsetAll
 
 }
@@ -68,6 +74,7 @@ setupPipe_exportAll() {
   export -f setupPipe_shibdLog
   export -f setupPipe_supervisordLog
   export -f setupPipe_tomcatLog
+  export -f setupPipe_tomcatAccessLog
   export -f setupPipe_unsetAll
 
 }